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Faelon Emissary
Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 938 Location: Your moms house.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Just sent a donation.
Do have a thought; is it possible to know (short of reaching out to them and digging around) how much the advertising is? It may help me in deciding if I should donate more, especially as a goal for something like CMUD etc... |
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Kalist19 Emissary
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 1155
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:55 am Post subject: |
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I got in touch with Zugg from cmud/ZMUD. Pricing for a banner on the webpage/forums starts at $1000/year. An icon added to cmud/ZMUD startup is ~$1000-$5000 for lifetime.
Topmudsites advertising fees are on the left under “advertise with us”.
Reddit has a bunch of different options starting at $5/day.
We currently have $820 Canadian / $615 USD - which is huge, thank you everyone! |
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Kalist19 Emissary
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 1155
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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Here's an idea!
We all probably have facebook. Above your main photo there is a spot for that wide 'cover photo'. What if we all put a banner in there with a black background and white or red letters saying WWW.ABANDONEDREALMS.COM - we all probably have some friends that are nerds and they might be like 'whats that' and check it out. And it's free! I'd do that on my FB but I don't know how to make it. |
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Vhrael Immortal
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1085 Location: Texas
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Kalist19 Emissary
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 1155
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Another low cost advertising idea. I could find a custom sticker site and get a ton of stickers printed either with abandoned realms logo (the one vhrael posted just above) or www.AbandonedRealms.com on them and mail them out to anybody who wants them, can slap them on the back of laptops, backpacks, etc |
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Vhrael Immortal
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1085 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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You'd have to make sure that they're being used in high-visibility places to be effective. "On my laptop that stays in my house and doesn't ever see daylight" isn't going to be effective advertising.
Maybe we can send some stickers to some ANTIFA/BLM protestors? Or have some players go to the next rally and spraypaint "ABANDONEDREALMS.COM - YOU WILL NEVER BE THE SAME" on some racist statues? |
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Davairus Implementor
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 10369 Location: 0x0000
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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make AR great again face masks |
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Kalist19 Emissary
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 1155
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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MAGA or MARGA? |
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Davairus Implementor
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 10369 Location: 0x0000
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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i dunno man. im just the initial ideas guy
official AR brewery where you can buy a bottle of firebreather online and have it mailed to you (it could be a smirnoff with a "custom sticker" label) |
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Erlwith
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 1626
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:29 am Post subject: |
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smirnoff? cant you just send me a toilet with an ar label. lol this is attackin smirnoff not u dav <3 |
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Davairus Implementor
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 10369 Location: 0x0000
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:35 am Post subject: |
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its getting plastered not getting into the hoe |
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Kalist19 Emissary
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 1155
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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OK guys - thinking we should start pulling the trigger on some of these ideas.
One that we have done before, and I think we should do again, is the side banner + icon on TMS. Here's the info for it:
Unlimited Impressions - sidebar - (140x50 Banner)
$30 per month or $180 for 7 months. Your banner will be added to the left sidebar that appears on approximately 75% of every page on Top MUD Sites. The advantage to this is that it doesn't go in a rotation, so your banner will always be showing. You will also get an icon of your choosing that will appear next to your site on the ranking list.
Let me know what you think! I'm still trying to figure out the Reddit advertising. There's a lot to go through. I'm working on getting more familiar with Reddit before pulling any triggers there. |
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Xenyar Emissary
Joined: 26 May 2010 Posts: 607
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:17 am Post subject: |
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We need to refocus on moving forward with something. |
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Xenyar Emissary
Joined: 26 May 2010 Posts: 607
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:19 am Post subject: |
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TMS is fine I guess. We've got the funds lets use them while mud activity is up a bit.
What's up with Reddit advertising? |
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Kalist19 Emissary
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 1155
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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We’ve got our side banner and icon up at TMS.
I’ve been active on reddit, putting our name out there on appropriate threads. If you guys have reddit accounts, watch for my posts in threads in r/mud and upvote please or offer words of support.
I’ve been reading through and I think we can do a “promotion” post promoting the mud every 7 days (and I think it’s free?).
We can also run an add campaign for as little as $5/day and target a specific community (I am thinking targeting r/mud would make more sense than a wider audience such as gamers in general - but I’m open to ideas!). Not sure how much exposure the $5/day would give us though. |
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Erlwith
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 1626
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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If you post the thread from reddit here I'd be glad to upvote. Also great point dav I actually live by that code so I take it back smirnoff. |
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Kalist19 Emissary
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 1155
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I've made some progress sorting through reddit advertising.
Currently I've been active in the r/mud subreddit. Thank you to all who have replied and upvoted my posts!
We can run a targetted ad campaign at any communitie(s). We can set a daily max of $5 and there are options for what you want but I would imagine what we are hoping for is increased traffic to the site. That's minimum of 10 cents per click. Alternatively, and maybe even better, you could pay for impressions (ie $3.50 for 1000 impressions).
We can set a budget or timeframe for our campaign, i.e. run it for a prespecified period (ie a month or something), or have it run with no set stop time but have the ability to stop it whenever we want.
Something VERY COOL: You can pick what times and which days you want the ad to run. I would propose we synchronize this with SURGE times. People who do click and log on will be doing so with lots of people around.
To that end, what are the days and times of surge? Helpfile is off schedule I think. I know of Fri 2100-2300 mountain time, Sun 1500-1700 mountain time.
Options:
Pay per click - min cost 10 cents per click
Drive traffic to your website
Pay for: cost per click
Brand awareness and reach - min cost $3.50 for 1000 impressions
Increase awareness of your brand or product
Pay for: cost per thousand impressions
Conversions - min cost 10 cents per click of something specific on your website
Drive valuable actions on your website
Pay for: cost per click
TARGETS: I think we should of course target r/mud but I think we might have some success with r/dungeons_and_dragons -> it's not a huge leap to go from D&D to mudding.
Any thoughts on this so far?
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Davairus Implementor
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 10369 Location: 0x0000
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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i think this is going to be a 'consistency is key' thing . just keep doing it. we always fizzled out before. |
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Kalist19 Emissary
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 1155
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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My current thought is essentially:
Run a campaign with a set daily budget for a set number of impressions, targetted at specific communities (retro gaming, d&d, mud?), at specific times (surge), for a specific duration (month?) and evaluate impact at the end of that period. |
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Nycticora
Joined: 09 Feb 2013 Posts: 2277
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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I ran a $150/mo adwords campaign for 3 years and we didn't get a single player out of it |
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